Subject: Bilderberg Group Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:08 am
The Bilderberg Group, Bilderberg conference, or Bilderberg Club is an annual, unofficial, invitation-only conference of approximately 120 to 140 guests from North America and Western Europe, most of whom are people of influence. About one-third are from government and politics, and two-thirds from finance, industry, labour, education and communications. Meetings are closed to the public. Origin The original conference was held at the Hotel de Bilderberg, near Arnhem in the Netherlands, from 29 to 31 May 1954. It was initiated by several people, including Polish politician Józef Retinger, concerned about the growth of anti-Americanism in Western Europe, who proposed an international conference at which leaders from European countries and the United States would be brought together with the aim of promoting Atlanticism – better understanding between the cultures of the United States and Western Europe to foster cooperation on political, economic, and defense issues. Retinger approached Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands who agreed to promote the idea, together with former Belgian Prime Minister Paul Van Zeeland, and the head of Unilever at that time, Dutchman Paul Rijkens. Bernhard in turn contacted Walter Bedell Smith, then head of the CIA, who asked Eisenhower adviser Charles Douglas Jackson to deal with the suggestion. The guest list was to be drawn up by inviting two attendees from each nation, one of each to represent conservative and liberal points of view. Fifty delegates from 11 countries in Western Europe attended the first conference, along with 11 Americans. The success of the meeting led the organizers to arrange an annual conference. A permanent Steering Committee was established, with Retinger appointed as permanent secretary. As well as organizing the conference, the steering committee also maintained a register of attendee names and contact details, with the aim of creating an informal network of individuals who could call upon one another in a private capacity.[citation needed] Conferences were held in France, Germany, and Denmark over the following three years. In 1957, the first US conference was held on St. Simons Island, Georgia, with $30,000 from the Ford Foundation. The foundation supplied further funding for the 1959 and 1963 conferences. Role In his 1980 essay The Bilderberg and the West, researcher Peter Thompson argues that the Bilderberg group is a meeting ground for top executives from the world’s leading multinational corporations and top national political figures to consider jointly the immediate and long-term problems facing the West. According to Thompson, Bilderberg itself is not an executive agency, but when Bilderberg participants reach a form of consensus about what is to be done they have at their disposal powerful transnational and national instruments for bringing about what it is they want to come to pass. That their consensus design is not always achieved, he concludes, is a reflection of the strength of competing resisting forces outside the capitalist ruling class and within it. Organizational structure
Meetings are organized by a steering committee with two members from each of approximately 18 nations. Official posts, in addition to a chairman, include an Honorary Secretary General. There is no such category in the group's rules as a "member of the group". The only category that exists is "member of the Steering Committee". In addition to the committee, there also exists a separate advisory group, though membership overlaps. Dutch economist Ernst van der Beugel became permanent secretary in 1960, upon Retinger's death. Prince Bernhard continued to serve as the meeting's chairman until 1976, the year of his involvement in the Lockheed affair. The position of Honorary American Secretary General has been held successively by Joseph E. Johnson of the Carnegie Endowment, William Bundy of Princeton, Theodore L. Eliot, Jr., former U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan, and Casimir A. Yost of Georgetown's Institute for the Study of Diplomacy. A 2008 press release from the 'American Friends of Bilderberg' stated that "Bilderberg's only activity is its annual Conference. At the meetings, no resolutions are proposed, no votes taken, and no policy statements issued" and noted that the names of attendees were available to the press. The Bilderberg group's unofficial headquarters is the University of Leiden in the Netherlands. According to the 'American Friends of Bilderberg', the 2008 agenda dealt "mainly with a nuclear free world, cyber terrorism, Africa, Russia, finance, protectionism, US-EU relations, Afghanistan and Pakistan, Islam and Iran". Chairmen of the Steering Committee Prince Bernhard of Lippe-Biesterfeld (1954–1975) Walter Scheel (1975–1977) Alec Douglas-Home (1977–1980) Eric Roll, Baron Roll of Ipsden (1986–1989) Peter Carington, 6th Baron Carrington (1990–1998) Étienne Davignon (1998–2001) Henri de Castries (since 2001) Participants Historically, attendee lists have been weighted towards bankers, politicians, and directors of large businesses. Heads of state, including King Juan Carlos I of Spain and Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, have attended meetings. Prominent politicians from North America and Europe are past attendees. In past years, board members from many large publicly traded corporations have attended, including IBM, Xerox, Royal Dutch Shell, Nokia and Daimler. The 2009 meeting participants in Greece included: Greek prime minister Kostas Karamanlis; Finnish prime minister Matti Vanhanen; Swedish foreign minister Carl Bildt; U.S. Deputy Secretary of State James Steinberg; U.S. Secretary of the Treasury Timothy Geithner; World Bank president Robert Zoellick; President of the European Commission José Manuel Barroso; Queen Sofia of Spain; and Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands. In 2009 the group hosted a dinner meeting at Castle of the Valley of the Duchess in Brussels on 12 November to promote the candidacy of Herman Van Rompuy for President of the European Council. The membership of the Bilderberg group is drawn largely from West European and North American countries. Journalist Caroline Moorehead, in a 1977 article critical of the Bilderberg group's membership, quoted an unnamed member of the group: "No invitations go out to representatives of the developing countries. 'Otherwise you simply turn us into a mini-United-Nations,' said one person. And, 'we are looking for like-thinking people and compatible people. It would be worse to have a club of dopes.'" In her article, Moorehead characterized the group as "heavily biased towards politics of moderate conservatism and big business" and claims that the "farthest left is represented by a scattering of central social democrats". Royalty Belgium Prince R.Philippe, Prince of Belgium (2007–2009, 2012) Commonwealth realms Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Commonwealth realms (1986) Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh, Commonwealth realms (1965, 1967) Netherlands Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands (1997, 2000, 2006, 2008–2012) Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands (1954–1975) (deceased) Willem-Alexander, Prince of Orange (2008) Norway King Harald V of Norway (1984) Haakon, Crown Prince of Norway (2011) Spain Juan Carlos I of Spain, King of Spain (2004) Queen Sofía of Spain (2008–2011)
Politics Austria Oscar Bronner (2008, 2009,2010, 2011) Newspaper publisher Werner Faymann (2009, 2011, 2012) Chancellor 2008–present Heinz Fischer (2010) Federal President 2004–present Alfred Gusenbauer (2007) Chancellor 2007–2008 Walter Rothensteiner (2011) CEO of Raiffeisen Zentralbank Rudolf Scholten (2011) Board member of Oesterreichische Kontrollbank Andreas Treichl (2010) CEO of Erste Group Belgium Paul-Henri Spaak, Former Prime Minister and Secretary General of NATO (1963) (deceased) Bulgaria Nikolai Kamov, Member of Parliament (1999) Canada Mike Harris, (2006),Premier of Ontario 1995–2002 Bernard Lord, (2006), Premier of New Brunswick 1999–2006 Gordon Campbell, (2010), Premier of British Columbia 2001–2011 Nigel S. Wright, (2012) Chief of Staff, Office of the Prime Minister of Canada, 2011–current Alison Redford, (2012), Premier of Alberta 2011-current Prime Ministers Lester B. Pearson, (1968), Prime Minister of Canada (1963–1968)(deceased) Pierre Elliott Trudeau, (1968), Prime Minister of Canada, 1968–1979, 1980–1984 (deceased) Jean Chrétien, (1996),Prime Minister of Canada, 1993–2003 Paul Martin, (1996),Prime Minister of Canada, 2003–2006 Stephen Harper, (2003),Prime Minister of Canada, 2006–current China Fu Ying (2011, 2012),Vice-Minister of Foreign Affairs, former Ambassador to the UK and Australia Finland Eero Heinäluoma (2006),former chairman of the Social Democratic Party, Minister of Finance 2005-2007 Jyrki Katainen (2007, 2009),chairman of the National Coalition Party, former Minister of Finance and current Prime Minister Sauli Niinistö (1997), former Minister of Finance, former Speaker of the Parliament, current President of the Republic Matti Vanhanen (2009), former Prime Minister, former chairman of Centre Party Jutta Urpilainen (2012), current Minister of Finance France Gaston Defferre (1964), member of National Assembly and mayor of Marseille (at the time) (deceased) Georges Pompidou, Former Prime Minister of France, Former President of the French Republic (deceased) Germany Guido Westerwelle (2007), Chairman of the Free Democratic Party of Germany and Minister of Foreign Affairs of Germany. Helmut Schmidt, West German Chancellor Angela Merkel (2005), German Chancellor Joschka Fischer (2008), Foreign Minister 1998-2005 Peer Steinbrueck (2011), German Chancellor Candidate Jürgen Trittin (2012), Environment Minister 1998-2005 Greece George Alogoskoufis (2008, 2009), Minister of Economy and Finance 2004-2009 Dora Bakoyannis (2009), Minister for Foreign Affairs 2006-2009 Anna Diamantopoulou (2008, 2009), Member of Parliament Anastasios Giannitsis (2012), Minister of the Interior (Greece) 2011-2012 Giorgos Papakonstantinou (2010, 2011), Minister of Finance 2009-2011 Yannis Papathanasiou (2009), Minister for Economy and Finance 2009 Yannis Stournaras (2009), Minister of Finance 2009-2011 Iceland Bjarni Benediktsson (1965, 1967, 1970), Mayor of Reykjavík 1940–47, Foreign Minister 1947–55, editor of The Morning Paper 1956–59, Minister of Justice and Ecclesiastical Affairs 1959–63, Prime Minister 1963–70 (deceased) Björn Bjarnason[43] (1974, 1977), Assistant editor of The Morning Paper 1984–1991, Minister of Education 1995–2002, Minister of Justice and Ecclesiastical Affairs 2003, 2009 Davíð Oddsson[43] (ca. 1991–1999), Mayor of Reykjavík 1982–1991, Prime Minister 1991–2004, Foreign Minister 2004–2005, Central Bank governor 2005–2009, editor of The Morning Paper as of September 2009 Einar Benediktsson (ca. 1970), ambassador: OECD 1956–60, UK 1982–1986, European Union et al. 1986–1991, NATO 1986–1990, United States et al. 1993–1997, etc. Geir Haarde,Central Bank economist 1977–1983, member and chairman of the Parliament's Foreign Affairs Committee 1991–1998, Minister of Finance 1998–2005, Foreign Minister 2005–2006, Prime Minister 2006–2009 Geir Hallgrímsson[43] (ca. 1974–1977, 1980), Mayor of Reykjavík 1959–72, Prime Minister 1974–1978, Foreign Minister 1983–1986, Central Bank governor 1986–1990 (deceased) Hörður Sigurgestsson, former CEO of shipping line Eimskip, former chairman and CFO of Icelandair Jón Sigurðsson (1993), IMF Board of Directors 1974–1987, Minister of Justice and Ecclesiastical Affairs 1987–88, Industry and Commerce 1988–93, Central Bank governor 1993–94, Nordic Investment Bank governor 1994–2005 Ireland Garret FitzGerald, former Taoiseach (deceased) Paul Gallagher, Attorney General of Ireland. Dermot Gleeson, former Attorney General of Ireland. Michael McDowell (2007), former Attorney General, former Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform Michael Noonan, (2012), then Minister for Finance. Peter Sutherland, Director General of the WTO and former Attorney General of Ireland Italy Mario Monti, Economist and Prime Minister Renato Ruggiero, former WTO director, politician Japan Nobuo Tanaka (2009), Executive Director of the International Energy Agency 2007-2011 Netherlands Ruud Lubbers, Prime Minister 1982-1994 Wim Kok, Prime Minister 1994-2002 Jan-Peter Balkenende (2008), Prime Minister 2002-2010 Maxime Verhagen, Minister Mark Rutte, the current Prime Minister Alexander Pechtold, leader of D66, a political party Norway Siv Jensen (2006) Leader for The Norwegian political party, "Fremskrittspartiet". (Progress Party (Norway)) Jens Stoltenberg (2002), current Prime Minister of Norway. Kristin Clemet (1999, 2008) Managing Director of the liberal and conservative think tank Civita, Former Minister of Education and Science. Geir Lundestad (2005) Director of the Norwegian Nobel institute and Secretary to The Nobel Peace Prize Committee. [edit] Portugal Francisco Pinto Balsemão (1981, 1983–1985, 1987–2008), former Prime Minister of Portugal, 1981–1983 and CEO of Impresa media group Manuel Pinho (2009), former Minister of Economy and Innovation José Sócrates (2004), former Prime Minister of Portugal José Pedro Aguiar-Branco, former Minister of Justice Santana Lopes (2004), former Prime Minister of Portugal José Manuel Durão Barroso (1994, 2003, 2005), former Prime Minister of Portugal and Minister of Foreign Affairs, and current President of the European Commission Nuno Morais Sarmento, former Minister of Presidency and Minister of Parliament Affairs António Costa (2008), former Minister of Interior and current Mayor of Lisbon Rui Rio (2008), current Mayor of Porto Manuela Ferreira Leite (2009), former Minister of Education and Minister of Finance and Public Administration Augusto Santos Silva, former Minister of Education, Minister of Culture, Minister of Parliament Affairs, and current Minister of National Defence Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa (1998), former Minister of Parliament Affairs António Guterres (1994), former Prime Minister of Portugal, former President of the Socialist International and current United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees Ferro Rodrigues, former Minister of Labour and Social Solidarity and Minister of Public Works, Transport and Communications Jorge Sampaio, former President of Portugal Luís Mira Amaral (1995), former Minister of Labour and Social Solidarity, chairman of Caixa Geral de Depósitos and CEO of Banco Português de Investimento Vítor Constâncio (1988), governor of the Banco de Portugal Manuel Ferreira de Oliveira, CEO of Galp Energia Ricardo Salgado, CEO of Banco Espírito Santo Fernando Teixeira dos Santos (2010), former Minister of Finance José Medeiros Ferreira (1977, 1980), former Minister of Foreign Affairs Joaquim Ferreira do Amaral (1999), former Minister of Public Works, Transport and Communications António Miguel Morais Barreto (1992), former Minister of Agriculture, Rural Development and Fisheries João Cravinho, former Minister for Environment, Spatial Planning and Regional Development Artur Santos Silva, former vice-governor of the Banco de Portugal, chairman of Banco Português de Investimento and current non-executive chairman of Jerónimo Martins Francisco Luís Murteira Nabo, former chairman of Portugal Telecom, Minister of Public Works, Transport and Communications, and current chairman of Galp Energia and president of the Portuguese Economists Association Poland Józef Retinger (1954 to 1960), Founder and secretary of Bilderberg Group(deceased) Andrzej Olechowski (1994, 2004, 2005) Hanna Suchocka (1998) Aleksander Kwaśniewski (2008), Former President Jan Vincent-Rostowski (2012) Spain María Dolores de Cospedal (2011), Secretary General of the People's PartyBernardino León Gross (2008, 2010, 2011), Secretary General of Office of the Prime Minister Miguel Ángel Moratinos (2009), Minister of Foreign Affairs 2004-2010 Soraya Sáenz de Santamaría (2012), Deputy Prime Minister Pedro Solbes (2009), Minister of Economy and Finance 1993-1996, 2004-2009 José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero (2010), Prime Minister 2004–2011 Sweden Carl Bildt (2006), (2008), (2009), Prime Minister 1991–1994, Minister of Foreign Affairs 2006– Anders Borg (2007), Minister of Finance 2006– Thorbjörn Fälldin (1978), Prime Minister 1976–1978 Maud Olofsson (2008), Minister of Industry 2006–2011 Fredrik Reinfeldt (2006), Prime Minister 2006– Mona Sahlin (1996), Head of the Swedish social democratic party 2007–2011 Switzerland Christoph Blocher (2009), former Member of Federal Council and former CEO of EMS Group Doris Leuthard (2011), Member of Federal Council Rolf Schweiger (2011) Turkey Ali Babacan (2008, 2009, 2012), Deputy Prime Minister United Kingdom Shirley Williams (at least 2010), stateswoman and member, House of Lords; Harvard University Professor; Past President, Chatham House; int'l member, Council on Foreign Relations. Paddy Ashdown (1989), former leader of Liberal Democrats, High Representative for Bosnia and Herzegovina Ed Balls (2006), former Economic Secretary to the Treasury and advisor to British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and was Secretary of State for Children, Schools and Families (2007–2010) Peter Carington, 6th Baron Carrington (Steering Committee member), former Foreign Secretary Kenneth Clarke (1993, 1998, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008, Chancellor of the Exchequer 1993–1997, Shadow Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform 2008–2010, Lord Chancellor, Secretary of State for Justice 2010–current Robert Gascoyne-Cecil (Viscount Cranborne) (1997),Leader of the House of Lords 1994–1997 Denis Arthur Greenhill, Lord Greenhill of Harrow (deceased) (1974) former Head of Foreign and Commonwealth Office Denis Healey (founder and Steering Committee member), former Chancellor of the Exchequer John Kerr (2008–2012), member of the House of Lords and Deputy Chairman of Royal Dutch Shell Peter Mandelson (1999, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012) Business Secretary (2008–2010) John Monks (1996), former TUC General Secretary George Osborne (2006, 2007, 2008, 2009) Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer (2004–2010), Chancellor of the Exchequer 2010–current David Owen (1982), former British Foreign Secretary and leader of the Social Democratic Party Enoch Powell, (deceased) (1968), MP and Ulster Unionist Malcolm Rifkind (1996), former Foreign Secretary Eric Roll (1964, 1966, 1967, 1973–1975, 1977–1999) (Bilderberg Steering Committee), Department of Economic Affairs, 1964, later Bilderberg Group Chairman (deceased) David Hannay, Baron Hannay of Chiswick (1995), Diplomatic posts at European Union and United Nations. John Smith (1989) (deceased), Labour Party leader [edit] Prime Ministers Tony Blair (1993), Prime Minister 1997–2007 Gordon Brown (1991), Prime Minister 2007– 2010 Edward Heath, Prime Minister 1970–1974 (deceased) Alec Douglas-Home (1977–1980), Chairman of the Bilderberg Group, Prime Minister 1963–1964 (deceased) Margaret Thatcher (1975), Prime Minister 1979–1990 United States Thomas E. Donilon (2012), Executive Vice President for Law and Policy at Fannie Mae (1999–2005), Current National Security Advisor for The White House. Roger Altman (2008, 2009) Deputy Treasury Secretary from 1993–1994, Founder and Chairman of Evercore Partners George W. Ball (1954, 1993), Under Secretary of State 1961–1968, Ambassador to U.N. 1968 (deceased) Sandy Berger (1999), National Security Advisor, 1997–2001 Timothy Geithner (2008, 2009), Treasury Secretary Dick Gephardt (2012), former Congressman and House Majority Leader Lee H. Hamilton (1997),former Congressman Christian Herter, (1961, 1963, 1964, 1966), 53rd United States Secretary of State (deceased) Charles Douglas Jackson (1957, 1958, 1960), Special Assistant to the President (deceased) Joseph E. Johnson (1954), President Carnegie Endowment for International Peace (deceased) Henry Kissinger (1957, 1964, 1966, 1971, 1973, 1974, 1977, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012), 56th United States Secretary of State Mark G. Mazzie (1986, 1987), Chief of Staff, The Honorable George C. Wortley, U.S. House of Representatives. Richard Perle (2011), Chairman of the Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee 2001–2003, United States Assistant Secretary of Defense 1981–1987 Colin Powell (1997),65th United States Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice (2008), 66th United States Secretary of State George P. Shultz (2008), 60th United States Secretary of State Lawrence Summers, Director of the National Economic Council Paul Volcker, Chair of the President's Economic Recovery Advisory Board and Chairman of the Federal Reserve from 1979–1987 Bing West (2010), author and former Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs Robert Zoellick (2008–2012), former Trade Representative, former Deputy Secretary of State and former President of the World Bank Group Presidents Bill Clinton (1991), President 1993–2001 Gerald Ford (1964, 1966), President 1974–1977 (deceased) Senators Tom Daschle (2008), Senator from South Dakota 1987-2005 John Edwards (2004), Senator from North Carolina 1999–2005 Chuck Hagel (1999, 2000), Senator from Nebraska 1997–2009 John Kerry (2012), Senator from Massachusetts 1985–present Sam Nunn (1996, 1997), Senator from Georgia 1972–1997 Governors Mitchell Daniels (2012) Governor of Indiana 2004–present Jon Huntsman, Jr. (2012), Governor of Utah 2005–2009 Rick Perry (2007), Governor of Texas 2000–present Mark Sanford (2008), Governor of South Carolina 2003–2011 Kathleen Sebelius (2008), Governor of Kansas 2003-2009 EU Commissioners European Union Commissioners who have attended include: Frederik Bolkestein (1996, 2003), former European Commissioner Neelie Kroes (2011), EU Commissioner Pascal Lamy (2003, 2010), former European Commissioner for Trade, Director-General of the World Trade Organization 2005–present Peter Mandelson (1999), (2009), former European Commissioner for Trade 2004–2008 Pedro Solbes (2010), former European Commissioner for Economic and Financial Affairs, former Second Vice President of Spain, former Minister of Economy and Finance Military Netherlands Jaap de Hoop Scheffer (2010), former Secretary General of NATO United Kingdom Colin Gubbins (1955, 1957, 1958, 1963, 1964, 1966), head of the British SOE (deceased) United States Lyman Lemnitzer (1963), Supreme Allied Commander NATO 1963–1969 (deceased) Alexander Haig (1978), NATO Commander 1974–1979 (US Secretary of State 1981–1982) (deceased) Keith B. Alexander (2012), Commander US Cyber Command; Director, National Security Agency. Financial institutions Austria Andreas Treichl (2009), CEO of Erste Bank Rudolf Scholten (2010), Member of the Board of Executive Directors, Oesterreichische Kontrollbank AG Canada Neil McKinnon, (1965), President of the Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce (CIBC). Louis Rasminsky, (1968), third Governor of the Bank of Canada from 1961 to 1973. (deceased) Frank McKenna, (2006, 2008, 2010, 2012), Deputy Chair of TD Bank Financial Group, Canadian Ambassador to the United States 2005–2006, Premier of New Brunswick 1987–1997 Marcel Faribault, (1966), Canadian notary, businessman and administrator, he became president of Trust Général du Canada. (deceased) Mark Carney, (2011, 2012), The eighth and current governor of the Bank of Canada and the Chairman of the Financial Stability Board, an institution of the G20 based in Basel, Switzerland. Clark, Edmund, (2008, 2010, 2011, 2012), President and CEO, TD Bank Financial Group France Henri de Castries (2008–2012), Chairman and CEO of AXA Jean-Claude Trichet (2008, 2009, 2010) President of the European Central Bank 2003–2011 Germany Siegmund Warburg (1977) (deceased) Greece Takis Arapoglou (2009), former Chairman and CEO of National Bank of Greece Netherlands Wim Duisenberg, former European Central Bank President(deceased) Poland Sławomir Sikora (2004) – CEO of Citibank Portugal Antonio Nogueira Leite (Portuguese) (2011), Economist Spain Ana P. Botín (2010), Chairman of Banesto Juan María Nin Génova (2009-2012), CEO of La Caixa Matías Rodriguez Inciarte (2010), Vice Chairman of Santander Group Turkey Suzan Sabancı Dinçer (2009, 2010), Chairman of Akbank United Kingdom Gordon Richardson, (1966, 1975) former Governor of the Bank of England (deceased) United States David Rockefeller, Sr. (2008, 2009, 2011), Former Chairman, Chase Manhattan Bank William Joseph McDonough (1997), former President, Federal Reserve Bank of New York Ben Bernanke (2008, 2009), Chairman of the Board of Governors of the United States Federal Reserve Paul Volcker (1982, 1983, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1992, 1997, 2009, 2010), former Chairman of the Federal Reserve Corporations Belgium Rolf Soiron (2011), CEO of Holcim Ltd, Finland Jorma Ollila (1997, 2005, 2008, 2011, 2012), current Non-Executive Chairman of Royal Dutch Shell and former Chairman of Nokia Corporation. France Michel Bon,former CEO of France Telecom Tom Enders (2011), CEO of Airbus André Lévy-Lang, (French) former CEO of Paribas Germany Josef Ackermann (2008–2011), CEO of Deutsche Bank Otto Wolff von Amerongen,Chairman Otto Wolff GmbH. Klaus Kleinfeld (2008–2012)Chairman and CEO of Alcoa Jürgen E. Schrempp (1994–1996, 1997), 1998, 1999, 2001–2005, 2006, 2007), former CEO of DaimlerChrysler Greece George A. David (2009-2011), Chairman of Coca-Cola Hellenic Dimitris Papalexopoulos (2008, 2009, 2012), Managing Director of Titan Cement Italy Giovanni Agnelli (1997), Honorary Chairman of Fiat Automobiles Umberto Agnelli (1997), Chairman of (deceased) Franco Bernabè (2011), CEO of Telecom Italia John Elkann (2008–2012), Chairman of Fiat Netherlands Paul Rijkens (Dutch) Former Chairman of Unilever (deceased) Poland Jacek Szwajcowski (2004, 2005) – CEO of Polska Grupa Farmaceutyczna (Polish Pharmaceutical Group) Russia Anatoly Chubais (1998, 2012), head of the Russian Nanotechnology Corporation Alexei Mordashov (2011), CEO of Severstal Spain César Alierta (2010), Chairman and CEO of Telefónica Jaime Carvajal Urquijo (2010), Chairman of Advent International Gustavo Cisneros (2010), Chairman of Grupo Cisneros José Manuel Entrecanales (2009, 2010), Chairman of Grupo Cisneros Sweden Percy Barnevik (1992–1996, 1997, 2001), former CEO of ASEA Jacob Wallenberg (2006), Chairman of Investor AB Hans Stråberg (2006), CEO of Electrolux Switzerland Peter Brabeck-Letmathe (2011),Chairman of Nestlé André Kudelski (2011) Director of Nestlé, CEO of the Kudelski Group Daniel Vasella (2008–2012), Chairman of Novartis Peter Voser (2010), CEO of Royal Dutch Shell Turkey Süreyya Ciliv (2011), CEO of Turkcell Mustafa Koç (2008–2012), Chairman of Koç Holding Tuncay Özilhan (2010), Chairman of Anadolu Group Şefika Pekin (2011), attorney Serpil Timuray (2012), CEO of Vodafone Turkey Agah Uǧur (2009), CEO of Borusan Holding United Kingdom Marcus Agius, Chairman of Barclays (2011) Lord Browne of Madingley (1995, 1997, 2004), Chief Executive of BP Peter Sutherland (1989–1996, 1997,2005), former Chairman of BP Martin Taylor (1993–1996,1997), former CEO of Barclays United States Jeff Bezos (2011), Founder and CEO of Amazon.com Timothy C. Collins (2008–2012), CEO of Ripplewood Holdings Bill Gates (2010), Chairman of Microsoft H. J. Heinz II (1954), CEO of H. J. Heinz Company (deceased) Chris Hughes (2011), Co-founder of Facebook Louis V. Gerstner, Jr., Donald E. Graham (2008–2010), CEO and Chairman of The Washington Post Company, Board of Directors for Facebook Henry Kravis (2008–2012), Co-founder, Co-Chairman and Co-CEO of Kohlberg Kravis Roberts Eric Schmidt (2008, 2010, 2011), CEO and Chairman of Google University, institute and other academic Canada James Orbinski, (2011), Professor of Medicine and Political Science, University of Toronto, he was President of the International Council of Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF, aka Doctors Without Borders) at the time the organization received the 1999 Nobel Peace Prize. China Huang Yiping (2011, 2012), Professor of Economics, China Center for Economic Research, Peking University France C. Fred Bergsten (1971, 1974, 1984, 1997), President, Peterson Institute Thierry de Montbrial,Director of the Institut Français des Relations Internationales Greece Loukas Tsoukalis (2009-2012), President of the Hellenic Foundation for European and Foreign Policy United States Richard Pipes (1981), Senior Staff Member, National Security Council Media Austria Oscar Bronner (2010),Publisher and Editor, Der Standard Canada Peter Mansbridge, (2010), CBC's chief correspondent and anchor of The National, CBC Television's flagship nightly newscast. Conrad Black, Baron Black of Crossharbour, (1981, 1983, 1985–1996), Hollinger International, Inc., Author and former media magnate.(1997), Robert Prichard, (2010), the president of Ontario's Metrolinx. Heather Reisman, (2000 – present), CEO of Chapters/Indigo, Co-Founder of the Heseg Foundation. David Frum, (1997), Canadian American journalist and a former economic speechwriter for President George W. Bush. Denmark Tøger Seidenfaden (1999, 2001–03), editor-in-chief, Politiken (deceased) France Nicolas Beytout, (French) Editor of Le Figaro (France) Erik Izraelewicz (2012), CEO of Le Monde Greece Alexis Papahelas (2008, 2009), Managing editor of Kathimerini Italy Carlo Rossella (1997), Editor, La Stampa Lilli Gruber (2012), Journalist – Anchorwoman, La7 Spain Juan Luis Cebrián (2008-2012), CEO of PRISA Switzerland Michael Ringier (2009), Chairman of Ringier Pietro Supino (2012), Chairman of Tamedia Turkey Sami Kohen (2009), Senior Foreign Affairs Columnist of Milliyet United Kingdom Will Hutton (1997), former CEO of The Work Foundation and editor-in-chief for The Observer Andrew Knight (1996), journalist, editor, and media baron United States William F. Buckley, Jr. (1996), columnist and founder of National Review (deceased) George Stephanopoulos (1996, 1997), Former Communications Director of the Clinton Administration (1993–1996), now ABC News Chief Washington Correspondent. Fouad Ajami (2012), Senior Fellow, The Hoover Institution, Stanford University meetings
Date Hotel Location 1954 (May 29–31) Hotel de Bilderberg Oosterbeek, Netherlands 1955 (March 18–20) Hotellerie Du Bas-Breau Barbizon, France 1955 (September 23–25) Grand Hotel Sonnenbichl Garmisch-Partenkirchen, West Germany 1956 (May 11–13) Hotel Store Kro Fredensborg, Denmark 1957 (February 15–17) King and Prince Hotel St. Simons Island, Georgia, United States 1957 (October 4–6) Grand Hotel Palazzo della Fonte Fiuggi, Italy 1958 (September 13–15) Palace Hotel Buxton, United Kingdom 1959 (September 18–20) Çinar Hotel Yeşilköy, Istanbul, Turkey 1960 (May 28–29) Palace Hotel Bürgenstock, Nidwalden, Switzerland 1961 (April 21–23) Manoir St. Castin Lac-Beauport, Quebec, Quebec, Canada 1962 (May 18–20) Grand Hotel Saltsjöbaden Saltsjöbaden, Sweden 1963 (May 29–31) Cannes, France 1964 (March 20–22) Williamsburg, Virginia, United States 1965 (April 2–4) Villa d'Este Cernobbio, Italy 1966 (March 25–27) Nassauer Hof Hotel Wiesbaden Wiesbaden, West Germany 1967 (March 31–April 2) Cambridge, United Kingdom 1968 (April 26–28) Mont Tremblant, Quebec, Canada 1969 (May 9–11) Hotel Marienlyst Helsingør, Denmark 1970 (April 17–19) Grand Hotel Quellenhof Bad Ragaz, Switzerland 1971 (April 23–25) Woodstock Inn Woodstock, Vermont, United States 1972 (April 21–23) La Reserve du Knokke-Heist Knokke, Belgium 1973 (May 11–13) Grand Hotel Saltsjöbaden Saltsjöbaden, Sweden 1974 (April 19–21) Hotel Mont d'Arbois Megève, France 1975 (April 22–24) Golden Dolphin Hotel Çeşme, İzmir, Turkey 1976 No meeting 1977 (April 22–24) Paramount Imperial Hotel Torquay, United Kingdom 1978 (April 21–23) Chauncey Conference Center Princeton, New Jersey, United States 1979 (April 27–29) Grand Hotel Sauerhof Baden bei Wien, Austria 1980 (April 18–20) Dorint Sofitel Quellenhof Aachen Aachen, West Germany 1981 (May 15–17) Palace Hotel Bürgenstock, Nidwalden, Switzerland 1982 (May 14–16) Rica Park Hotel Sandefjord Sandefjord, Norway 1983 (May 13–15) Château Montebello Montebello, Quebec, Canada 1984 (May 11–13) Grand Hotel Saltsjöbaden Saltsjöbaden, Sweden 1985 (May 10–12) Doral Arrowwood Hotel Rye Brook, New York, United States 1986 (April 25–27) Gleneagles Hotel Gleneagles, Auchterarder, United Kingdom 1987 (April 24–26) Villa d'Este Cernobbio, Italy 1988 (June 3–5) Interalpen-Hotel Tyrol Telfs-Buchen, Austria 1989 (May 12–14) Gran Hotel de La Toja Isla de La Toja, Spain 1990 (May 11–13) Harrison Conference Center Glen Cove, New York, United States 1991 (June 6–9) Steigenberger Badischer Hof Hotel, Schlosshotel Bühlerhöhe Bühl (Baden), Baden-Baden, Germany 1992 (May 21–24) Royal Club Evian Hotel, Ermitage Hotel Évian-les-Bains, France 1993 (April 22–25) Nafsika Astir Palace Hotel Vouliagmeni, Greece 1994 (June 2–5) Kalastajatorppa Hotel Helsinki, Finland 1995 (June 8–11) Palace Hotel Bürgenstock, Nidwalden, Switzerland 1996 (May 30–June 2) CIBC Leadership Centre aka The Kingbridge Centre King City, Ontario, Canada 1997 (June 12–15) Pine Isle Resort (demolished) Lake Lanier, Georgia, United States 1998 (May 14–17) Turnberry Hotel Turnberry, United Kingdom 1999 (June 3–6) Caesar Park Hotel Penha Longa Sintra, Portugal 2000 (June 1–4) Chateau du Lac Hotel Genval, Brussels, Belgium 2001 (May 24–27) Hotel Stenungsbaden Stenungsund, Sweden 2002 (May 30 – June 2) Westfields Marriott Chantilly, Virginia, United States 2003 (May 15–18) Trianon Palace Hotel Versailles, France 2004 (June 3–6) Grand Hotel des Iles Borromees Stresa, Italy 2005 (May 5– Dorint Sofitel Seehotel Überfahrt Rottach-Egern, Germany 2006 (June 8–11) Brookstreet Hotel Kanata, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada 2007 (May 31 – June 3) Ritz-Carlton Hotel [4] Şişli, Istanbul, Turkey. 2008 (June 5– Westfields Marriott Chantilly, Virginia, United StateS 2009 (May 14–16) Astir Palace resort Athens, Greece 2010 (June 4–6) Hotel Dolce Sitges, Spain 2011 (June 9-12) Suvretta House St. Moritz, Switzerland 2012 (May 31 – June 3) Westfields Marriott Chantilly, Virginia, United States The 1976 Bilderberg conference was planned for April at The Homestead in Hot Springs, Virginia, United States. Due to the ongoing Lockheed scandal involving Prince Bernhard at the time, it had to be cancelled.
Privacy The meeting hotels are inaccessible for any other guest for the full period of the conferences and sentineled by private security staffs as well as by local police authorities. During the Bilderberg Meeting at Vouliagmeni (Greece) in 2009, for instance, the British Guardian reporter Charlie Skelton was arrested twice after having taken pictures of vehicles.
Conspiracy theory According to chairman Étienne Davignon, a major attraction of Bilderberg group meetings is that they provide an opportunity for participants to speak and debate candidly and to find out what major figures really think, without the risk of off-the-cuff comments becoming fodder for controversy in the media. However, partly because of its working methods to ensure strict privacy, the Bilderberg group is accused of conspiracies. This outlook has been popular on both extremes of the political spectrum, even if they disagree on what the group wants to do. Some on the left accuse the Bilderberg group of conspiring to impose capitalist domination,while some on the right have accused the group of conspiring to impose a world government and planned economy. In 2001, Denis Healey, a Bilderberg group founder and, for 30 years, a steering committee member, said: "To say we were striving for a one-world government is exaggerated, but not wholly unfair. Those of us in Bilderberg felt we couldn't go on forever fighting one another for nothing and killing people and rendering millions homeless. So we felt that a single community throughout the world would be a good thing." In 2005 Davignon discussed these accusations with the BBC: "It is unavoidable and it doesn't matter. There will always be people who believe in conspiracies but things happen in a much more incoherent fashion... When people say this is a secret government of the world I say that if we were a secret government of the world we should be bloody ashamed of ourselves." In a 1994 report Right Woos Left, published by the Political Research Associates, investigative journalist Chip Berlet argued that right-wing populist conspiracy theories about the Bilderberg group date back as early as 1964 and can be found in Schlafly's self-published book A Choice, Not an Echo, which promoted a conspiracy theory in which the Republican Party was secretly controlled by elitist intellectuals dominated by members of the Bilderberger group, whose internationalist policies would pave the way for world communism. Also, in August 2010 former Cuban president Fidel Castro wrote an article for the Cuban Communist Party newspaper Granma in which he cited Daniel Estulin’s 2006 book The Secrets of the Bilderberg Club, which, as quoted by Castro, describes "sinister cliques and the Bilderberg lobbyists" manipulating the public "to install a world government that knows no borders and is not accountable to anyone but its own self." Author Brian Dunning observes that "Cuba is not among the nations represented in the Bilderberg Group and Castro has never attended a meeting", so he has no greater insight than any reader of Estulin's book. G. William Domhoff, a research professor in psychology and sociology who studies theories of power, sees the role of international relations forums and social clubs such as the Bilderberg group as a place to share ideas, reach consensus, and create social cohesion within a power elite. He adds that this understanding of forums and clubs such as the Bilderberg group fits with the perceptions of the members of the elite. Domhoff warns progressives against getting distracted by conspiracy theories which demonize and scapegoat such forums and clubs. He argues that the opponents of progressivism in the United States are conservatives within the corporate elite and the Republican Party. It is more or less the same people who belong to forums and clubs such as the Bilderberg group, but it puts them in their most important roles, as capitalists and political leaders, which are visible and therefore easier to fight. Politico journalist Kenneth P. Vogel reports that it is the "exclusive roster of globally influential figures that has captured the interest of an international network of conspiracists," who for decades have seen the Bilderberg meetings as a "corporate-globalist scheme", and are convinced powerful elites are moving the planet toward an oligarchic "new world order". He goes on to state that these conspiracists' "populist paranoid worldview", characterized by a suspicion of the ruling class rather than any prevailing partisan or ideological affiliation, is widely articulated on overnight AM radio shows and numerous Internet websites. Author James McConnachie comments that conspiracy theorists have a point, but that they fail to communicate it effectively. He argues that the Bilderberg group acts in a manner consistent with a global conspiracy, but does so without the same "degree of nefariousness", a difference not appreciated by conspiracy theorists, who "tend to see this cabal as outright evil." McConnachie concludes: "Occasionally you have to give credit to conspiracy theorists who raise issues that the mainstream press has ignored. It's only recently that the media has picked up on the Bilderbergers. Would the media be running stories if there weren't these wild allegations flying around?" Proponents of Bilderberg conspiracy theories in the United States include individuals and groups such as the John Birch Society political activist Phyllis Schlafly, writer Jim Tucker, political activist Lyndon LaRouche, right wing radio host Alex Jones, and politician Jesse Ventura, who made the Bilderberg group a topic of a 2009 episode of his TruTV series Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura. Non-American proponents include Russian-Canadian writer Daniel Estulin,
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Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:27 am
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Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:33 am
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Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:42 pm
WOW that's a long list. Thanks for all the info.
I was doing a bit of research on them last night. I tend to be a bit of a Political Historian in my personal life, so I was curious as to what different politicians had to say on it. From what I saw, they tried to pick Mitt Romney's running mate as soon to be former Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels (whose second term expires tomorrow), but he'd already indicated that he wasn't interested in being Vice President. He takes office as President of Purdue University tomorrow. I did hear that Mitt Romney had originally settled on NJ Gov. Chris Christie as his running mate before he'd left for his trip to England, but then when he came back he changed his mind to Congressman/House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan. Ron Paul doesn't seem to think too highly of them, but then again in the video I saw, which I could post soon, he didn't really have a lot to say about them neither.
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Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:35 am
i read this before.
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Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:40 pm
And there was this video in one of the comments about it:
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Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:45 pm
Cool thanks for adding this. The more we know about them the better we can stand against them
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Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:50 pm
Yep. I wrote a post on Twitter a little bit ago confronting the Mayor of NYC about this. The one post I showed you. Haha.
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Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:21 pm
way to go did he ever reply to it
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Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:57 pm
Damn! this group means bisness. Frank... Frank!
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Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Sat May 18, 2013 8:54 pm
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Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:09 am
Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:53 pm
I don't think the Bilderberg group is such a big deal. But that's just because I'm impossible to control now. I have contingency plans for like, every possible scenario from a mugger on the street to the end of the world as we know it. Lately, and maybe it's just because I've had to grow up fast and I have a family and a career to tend to now, but lately I haven't been caring too much about stuff like the bilderberg group. Instead I'm more worried about my life. All I care about is making sure my little spot on the earth is brighter and safer. I prefer education, guidance, and prevention and working with my friends, my family, my friends' families, and my close acqaintences and other people in my life such as my coworkers and my boss (whoever it may be on any given day; changes all the time) and my workplace in general. As a superhero my mission is to be the best I can be in my life. May sound bad to say it, but the rest of the world can burn and I'd be okay because I know that my little spot on the earth would be safe. I don't patrol or do charity work or outreach anymore, and I don't reccomend or encourage it anymore. If everyone did the same, just worried about focussing all their energy into their Circle, the world would be way safer and make way more of a difference than any patrol ever has in history. But that's just my $0.02
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Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:25 pm
204,
While I would not agree with that at all, for a lot of reasons, I do understand the need to voice your beliefs and also in this life we all follow our own individual path to self-enlightenment to guide us where we need to go in life. I do wish you luck and hope for the best.
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Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:29 pm
Thanks. And no worries. What parts don't you agree with and why? Just curios; not challenging or anything.
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Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:45 pm
It's alright. And the part that I disagreed with was how I do believe it is more constructive and feels more meaningful if we do things for others.
And also the part about the Bilderberg Group. They basically try to control too much of everything. People that powerful, who have to be so secretive about what they talk about. It's really creepy. I do believe that our voices matter. The quote that I currently have on top of the forum explains my thoughts on it.
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Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:15 pm
Ah. Well I agree with that; helping others is productive and meaningful. But I focus on helping the ones I can. The ones I know without a doubt that I can help in some manner are the people in my life right now, and the ones who will be in my life in the future. When i did patrol, I occasionally helped someone. Be it giving a cigarette or some cash to a homeless veteran, or some cab for or a place to stay. Other times were spent battling those who wanted to hurt someone else, be it a rapist, a mugger, or a gang initiation. Sometimes it was investigative operations and undercover work. But after a while, I started pondering how much have I really accomplished. I still see the same homeless people in my neighborhood. Those individuals I protected and the women who were about to get raped may have all just as easily gotten into the same situation the following night when I wasn't their to play nanny. I realized, though it sounds odd, that I didn't actually accomplish anything. Nothing changed. I felt better about going to the capital and saving those kids from the Director though. I could see and observe the changes. My voice was heard by the same creepy powerful people that are invited to the Bilderberg group meetings, Senators, Governors, Representatives, Agencies, Organizations. But the most change I have ever observed in all of my activities is the changes in my own life when I decided that the people I need to focus on are the ones right in front of me. Not strangers. While I was trying to protect total strangers whom I have no personal relationship with, my family needed me. My friends needed me. I decided I'd help them first. That I'd make sure my Circle is safe before worrying about strangers, but over time, my Circle kept growing, and I continued to touch more new individuals on a personal level, and it dawned on me that I'm never going to be finished with my Circle. They're the ones who need me, and I have to be their superhero first and foremost. If I'm elsewhere on business or whatever it may be, and I see someone getting hurt, I;ll definitely step in and help, but I'm not looking for it anymore; I don't set aside hours out of my day to patrol for total strangers who may or may not need any protecting that night when I could be spending that time making real changes in my Circle. And if others focussed on their circles, if one person in each family committed their full attention to their family, everyone would be safe. And so my job as a superhero became about being a rolemodel of how one should live their life. I've inspired others in my Circle to follow this path with their circles, and they've seen the power it has as well, but some refuse, and they mayt redicule or reject my methods, in which case I wish them a happy day and move onto someone who wants my help. I don't help the unwilling, because it's a waste of time. Helping others is important. But it's also important to be aware of who the right people are, and direct your energy into them instead of strangers. Those said strangers will be fine so long as someone in their Circle cares, and who knows, perhaps you would be the one who inspired that Circle's superhero, and so in a way, by helping yourself and your circle, you are changing the world, you are introducing something new, and make bigger changes than patroling in an outfit ever could. But as before, this is just my opinion; I have no issues with how others decide to live their lives. I used to, but it got tiring, so I learned to accept it and focus on my own life. With the Bilderberg Group, I can understand the issue of not wanting to be controlled, believe me; I grew up in a cage with mad scientists poking and prodding at my brain and body for three years, I have big issues with being controlled. But like with most other aspects in my life, I have a tendency to go inwards, instead of outwards. For example: "The Bilderberg Group want to control me." where most would think "Go after the Bilderberg Group!" I have a tendency to think, "I'll make it impossible for them to be able to control me by developing my own self and securing my perimiters and putting in place several nonconfrontation contingency plans to ensure my wellbeing." They may control other people, and they'll succeed because while those people were so busy trying to go after the Bilderberg group they neglected to ensure the survival of their Circles, and are vulnerable to all manner of attacks both physical and subtle, and also because most people don't oput as much effort into their Circles as I do. Everyone in my family and all my friends; we're intimately connected. We can practicaly read each others thoughts. We're all in everything together, we're like a huge team....an ARMY. An extremely close, understanding, prepared, bonded army. Let the Bilderberg Group do what they want to my city; I know that hundreds of individuals, all the ones I spent time with on a personal, individual basis (as opposed to a quick random meeting on the street between two individuals who don't even know the others names) will be safe, secured, armed, and prepared. The epiphany I had is basically that problems only get insolved internally. Going outside your self, outside your circle, it won't change anything nearly as much as creating a personal netowork does, starting with your own Circle. It'll grow into an army. This too is just my opinion. I prefer being very subtle and indirect and letting things just sort of fall into place. Like dominos.
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Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:23 am
Hero Man,
I think that the Bilderberg Group is focused on subliminal ways of running the world. So that people don't even know that they are following them. And that if anyone does speak out against them, gets labeled a conspiracy theorist, as if it's some kind of bad thing or something.
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Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:45 pm
Impressive list...
Of the one's who need to be and should be...destroyed.
Too much power attracts corruption, and that much power concentrated by those few people?....you know the outlook for people like you and me is not going to be good.
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Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:30 am
DarkShadow,
We can do what we can to show people the truth.
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Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:14 pm
Very true Tothian, but talking about it while the world situation doesn't change (because of them) is one thing, actually doing something about it and getting real results is another thing altogether.
Someone has to shake the world from it's apathy and put the spotlight on this kind of scum and really scare the shit out them, putting them on official notice from everybody that enough...is really enough.
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Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:56 am
DarkShadow,
Every little bit we can do matters.
Also, thank you for moving this to page 2. Now we can read the posts easier with less stretched out pages!
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Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:20 am
The thing is though, we don't know the truth. Nothing that goes on in those meetings is released to the public, none of us have attended one of their meetings, we don't know what the truth is. It's a bit rash in my eyes to listen to what the conspiracy theories are and immediately buy into it. We don't know any of those people, and we don't know what they discuss. It could be perfectly harmless. Until we have some hardcore evidence of foul play we should act as though the world continues to spin on.
That is an impressive list. And those are just the ones we know about. But what that list tells me personally, is that a lot of people are invested in it. A lot of very important people, I might add. So I kinda think if what they discussed was so sinister and dangerous that more of them would be coming forward with the real truth and some real evidence, that we can verify, out of concern for their jobs, their families, and their reputations. And so that sort of leads me to think that it's not that big a deal. At least not yet. Take everything online with a grain of salt.
And if so many people are involved in an un-sinister committee, I say what they hey, maybe it's beneficial. Maybe they're working on making the world a better place. And just perhaps there's a good reason they have their meetings in private. Just because it's private doesn't mean it's sinister and evil. The Reception I hosted in Juneau last February was a Private Party; governors, senators, represenatives, other members of the State Legislature, powerful and influencial people. It was invitation-only. And that wound up saving all the kids in Alaska from the Director. It wasn't foul play, it's just that business is better discussed in private when you have some time to talk and negotiate. Or manipulate. You know, whatever comes first haha.
I say don't fight the Government, use the Government. Oh yeah, there's corruption all right, but there's a ton more good, honest, hard working folks in politics than the conpiracy theorists want you to think. No more "down with the man"; we just need some new men every once in a while. It's rediculous how many people are working the industry for decades, they need replacements. That's where corruption comes in. You start working a long career and get some kind of reputation and influence, then it becomes all about making favors and taking favors and then corruption has finally laid in.
So lay that guy off after four years, and get a new one. Four years, and that's it, you're outa here. Haha. That way everything stays nice and fresh.
Stay true. Stay free. Stay safe.
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Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:40 am
Hero Man,
You make some good points there. About how we should use the government that was created by the people and for the people.
But, while what they talk about specifically there is secret, some of it is known, about what their agenda is. They want to create a one world order. And the stuff they do doesn't help, nor would a one world order.
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Subject: Re: Bilderberg Group Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:14 am
What are the sources?
What have they done that hasn't helped anything?
And if they are, what can we do?
And if we can't do anything significant, then why are we focussing on it?
There's nothing I know of currently that I can do, except make my family and friends as self independant as humanly possible. My family and I live completely off the grid. We grow and hunt our own food, we heat our own house with wood, we make our own lumber, we genereate our own electricity and have back up redundant systems, in addition to go packs and a truckload of the bare necessities and other camping/survival gear. So a big thing I do as a superhero is teach my family and friends things to that build independance and embody freedom, so that when the economy does collapse, or someone does try to take over the world, we'll be ready, and we don't have to rely on anyone or anything except ourselves. It doesn't matter for the people I've helped so far and the people I'll continue to educate and guide if Bilderberg tries to go for a one world government. And if it escalated to a Red Dawn type of scenario, then we have underground bunkers and a group of thirty guys willing to form a guerilla unit fully armed, armored, and ready to rumble.
I guess I just personally spend more time on protecting and helping rather than fighting. I prevent trouble from happening in the first place. Education, guidance, and prevention.
If there is something we can actually do about the Bilderberg group, I'm all ears, but it seems like a situation that would be above our level, and so the best thing we could do is prepare the masses.